Comments on: Ten Reasons I Am Voting for Ralph Nader and Matt Gonzalez http://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/ Apple, Bicycles, Boston, Dot and Web Media Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:28:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Adam Pieniazekhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-24397 Adam Pieniazek Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:48:21 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-24397 We don't have anything to lose. Let me say though that so far, Obama is doing an OK job. He's not doing great but he's not doing terribly and at least that's an improvement. Baby steps people, baby steps! We don’t have anything to lose. Let me say though that so far, Obama is doing an OK job. He’s not doing great but he’s not doing terribly and at least that’s an improvement. Baby steps people, baby steps!

]]> By: Tony Leehttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-24374 Tony Lee Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:04:44 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-24374 Heck, why not vote for Ralph and Matt?Look what we've had to work with for the past two decades! Perhaps Ralph and Matt might, for once, keep a campaign promise... Heck, why not vote for Ralph and Matt?

Look what we’ve had to work with for the past two decades!
Perhaps Ralph and Matt might, for once, keep a campaign promise…

]]> By: Barack Obama: Marketing Hope to the Masses | Only The Internet’s Best Reviewshttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-18200 Barack Obama: Marketing Hope to the Masses | Only The Internet’s Best Reviews Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:17:09 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-18200 [...] I’m personally voting for Ralph Nader, there is much to respect in Barack Obama and how he’s ran his campaign. Say what you will [...] [...] I’m personally voting for Ralph Nader, there is much to respect in Barack Obama and how he’s ran his campaign. Say what you will [...]

]]> By: Ralph Nader: Uber Citizen, OK President | Only The Internet’s Best Reviewshttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-18149 Ralph Nader: Uber Citizen, OK President | Only The Internet’s Best Reviews Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:14:20 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-18149 [...] the interests of full disclosure, please note that I will vote for Ralph Nader and Matt Gonzalez on November 4, 2008. Having gotten that out of the way, it’s clear that I believe Ralph is [...] [...] the interests of full disclosure, please note that I will vote for Ralph Nader and Matt Gonzalez on November 4, 2008. Having gotten that out of the way, it’s clear that I believe Ralph is [...]

]]> By: Adam Pieniazekhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-18005 Adam Pieniazek Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:50:37 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-18005 Well Will, in 2004 I lived in North Carolina and voted for Kerry and encouraged my friends and classmates to do the same based purely on not wanting to give Bush another four years. It was my first time voting in a presidential election and it honestly left me with a very sour taste. I thought Kerry was clearly better than Bush but knew he wasn't a great politician either (firsthand from having lived in Massachusetts for nearly my whole life).If I live in North Carolina right now would I vote for Obama? It's tough to say for sure, but I don't think I would. I've moved past the mainstream parties and Obama has voted with Bush / the Republicans often enough that it's tough to say he's truly that much better. He's an average politician with great charisma, whereas Nader is an amazing citizen with little charisma. Honestly, the drastic and idealistic changes Ralph Nader and Ron Paul and other third party people want to make scare me almost as much as the government-corporate consolidation of the Demopublicans and Republocrats. I believe in a lot of Nader's platform stands but at the same time hope that if he were elected he'd have the common sense to ease into his positions instead of drastically changing our country overnight.I've honestly had a very tough time this year picking a presidential candidate to vote for and Nader is by no means perfect. He has plenty of character flaws and I still wish there was an even better option. Having said all that, Nader's stances are most in line with mine and that is why I'm voting for him, because of his thoughts and stands on the issues. I don't think that living in a swing state would change that at this point, as I want to vote for my ideals, not empty tactics.That's great Allison! I have no doubt that third parties would poll a lot higher if they were allowed to debate the mainstream candidates and no doubt that is one of the reasons they are not allowed in the debates. Well Will, in 2004 I lived in North Carolina and voted for Kerry and encouraged my friends and classmates to do the same based purely on not wanting to give Bush another four years. It was my first time voting in a presidential election and it honestly left me with a very sour taste. I thought Kerry was clearly better than Bush but knew he wasn’t a great politician either (firsthand from having lived in Massachusetts for nearly my whole life).

If I live in North Carolina right now would I vote for Obama? It’s tough to say for sure, but I don’t think I would. I’ve moved past the mainstream parties and Obama has voted with Bush / the Republicans often enough that it’s tough to say he’s truly that much better. He’s an average politician with great charisma, whereas Nader is an amazing citizen with little charisma. Honestly, the drastic and idealistic changes Ralph Nader and Ron Paul and other third party people want to make scare me almost as much as the government-corporate consolidation of the Demopublicans and Republocrats. I believe in a lot of Nader’s platform stands but at the same time hope that if he were elected he’d have the common sense to ease into his positions instead of drastically changing our country overnight.

I’ve honestly had a very tough time this year picking a presidential candidate to vote for and Nader is by no means perfect. He has plenty of character flaws and I still wish there was an even better option. Having said all that, Nader’s stances are most in line with mine and that is why I’m voting for him, because of his thoughts and stands on the issues. I don’t think that living in a swing state would change that at this point, as I want to vote for my ideals, not empty tactics.

That’s great Allison! I have no doubt that third parties would poll a lot higher if they were allowed to debate the mainstream candidates and no doubt that is one of the reasons they are not allowed in the debates.

]]> By: Allisonhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-17977 Allison Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:04:46 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-17977 Hi Adam, a friend of mine just told me her company just finished a survey here in Indiana that listed "3rd Parties" as receiving 8% in the Presidential horserace question.Unfortunately, the lock the Demopublicans have on the electorate may indeed leave our Republic in shambles. Cornering the conversation and stifling dissent is most surely dangerous.Be well.<abbr><em>Allisons last blog post..<a href="http://smargus.com/2008/10/the-abomination-of-government-marriage/" rel="nofollow">The Abomination of Government Marriage</a></abbr></em> Hi Adam, a friend of mine just told me her company just finished a survey here in Indiana that listed “3rd Parties” as receiving 8% in the Presidential horserace question.

Unfortunately, the lock the Demopublicans have on the electorate may indeed leave our Republic in shambles. Cornering the conversation and stifling dissent is most surely dangerous.

Be well.

Allisons last blog post..The Abomination of Government Marriage

]]> By: pdshttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-17968 pds Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:06:36 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-17968 Nader is the man! Always has been!<abbr><em>pdss last blog post..<a href="http://demosdemos.blogspot.com/2008/10/let-victors-come-after-us.html" rel="nofollow">Let the Victors come after us</a></abbr></em> Nader is the man! Always has been!

pdss last blog post..Let the Victors come after us

]]> By: Willhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-17966 Will Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:50:36 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-17966 Adam, I like you live in a state that will with out question be in the Obama column, but imagine if you lived in Ohio, Florida, or any of the host of states that are closely contested. Would you still have the same conviction of your choice? I don't pretend that the rule we live under today is democratic, as one person one vote is clearly not the case. I would also like to amend my previous post as after reading your comments I do realize some of the resent turmoil and strife has effected me personally. And as far as my Thomas Jefferson quote is concerned I in no way am advocating military revolution, however I do believe that perhaps with an intellectual revolution this country might return to the principles of it's great leaders and begin to flourish once more. Finally I meant to say Democracy of, by, and for not for, by and of but I believe that the point still was made. Adam,
I like you live in a state that will with out question be in the Obama column, but imagine if you lived in Ohio, Florida, or any of the host of states that are closely contested. Would you still have the same conviction of your choice? I don’t pretend that the rule we live under today is democratic, as one person one vote is clearly not the case.
I would also like to amend my previous post as after reading your comments I do realize some of the resent turmoil and strife has effected me personally.
And as far as my Thomas Jefferson quote is concerned I in no way am advocating military revolution, however I do believe that perhaps with an intellectual revolution this country might return to the principles of it’s great leaders and begin to flourish once more.
Finally I meant to say Democracy of, by, and for not for, by and of but I believe that the point still was made.

]]> By: Adam Pieniazekhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-17964 Adam Pieniazek Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:56:19 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-17964 Well, as a young citizen too Will, I can say I've seen a drop in our economic prowess over the last eight years or so.Heck, when I was in high school I had a summer job where I earned $12 / hr which would work out to about $18 today...now I'm sure I could find a job somewhere today paying me $18 / hr but it'd be a lot tougher than it was eight years ago.I think you make a great point that Ralph has given himself to the good of this country for nearly his whole life. Just look at the long, long list of laws that he's helped pass, imagine what he'd do if he was actually working for the government! Say what you want about Mr. Nader but he would surely deliver the most bang for our presidential buck and that argument is not up for debate."Democracy was once envisioned as a government for, by, and of the people."Another great point, however I truly believe our system of governance must change in order to deliver this democracy. We need a system where citizens can challenge laws and politicians at anytime. Also, the electoral college needs to be abolished. Having a winner takes all system makes the minority opinion null and void, whereas any true democracy includes all opinions, not just the most popular one. Well, as a young citizen too Will, I can say I’ve seen a drop in our economic prowess over the last eight years or so.

Heck, when I was in high school I had a summer job where I earned $12 / hr which would work out to about $18 today…now I’m sure I could find a job somewhere today paying me $18 / hr but it’d be a lot tougher than it was eight years ago.

I think you make a great point that Ralph has given himself to the good of this country for nearly his whole life. Just look at the long, long list of laws that he’s helped pass, imagine what he’d do if he was actually working for the government! Say what you want about Mr. Nader but he would surely deliver the most bang for our presidential buck and that argument is not up for debate.

“Democracy was once envisioned as a government for, by, and of the people.”

Another great point, however I truly believe our system of governance must change in order to deliver this democracy. We need a system where citizens can challenge laws and politicians at anytime. Also, the electoral college needs to be abolished. Having a winner takes all system makes the minority opinion null and void, whereas any true democracy includes all opinions, not just the most popular one.

]]> By: Willhttp://adamp.com/politics/ten-reasons-i-am-voting-for-ralph-nader-and-matt-gonzalez/#comment-17960 Will Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:57:01 +0000 http://adamp.com/?p=565#comment-17960 As a young citizen I can't say that I know very much about the improvement or decline of personal life over the past 30 years, however in this time of out of control debt and failure to accept personal responsibility on the part of the banking system and the whole host of other issues that face our country. I believe that the time for true change is upon us, as Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I don't believe that we must literally kill the tyrants or that patriots must give up their lives. Ralph Nader is a shining example of this sentiment working tirelessly for nearly the past 50 years in order to repair this broken democracy, not by causing more pain and suffering put by the tools granted to us by our founding fathers. I believe that Ralph Nader is the candidate that most accurately represents my views and it is for that reason that I have already cast my absentee ballot for Nader/Gonzalez 2008 Democracy was once envisioned as a government for, by, and of the people. Perhaps one day we shall see that realized. As a young citizen I can’t say that I know very much about the improvement or decline of personal life over the past 30 years, however in this time of out of control debt and failure to accept personal responsibility on the part of the banking system and the whole host of other issues that face our country.
I believe that the time for true change is upon us, as Thomas Jefferson once said “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” I don’t believe that we must literally kill the tyrants or that patriots must give up their lives. Ralph Nader is a shining example of this sentiment working tirelessly for nearly the past 50 years in order to repair this broken democracy, not by causing more pain and suffering put by the tools granted to us by our founding fathers.
I believe that Ralph Nader is the candidate that most accurately represents my views and it is for that reason that I have already cast my absentee ballot for Nader/Gonzalez 2008
Democracy was once envisioned as a government for, by, and of the people. Perhaps one day we shall see that realized.

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