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> <channel><title>Comments on: I Endorse Barack Obama (but I&#039;m voting for Nader-Gonzalez)</title> <atom:link href="http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/</link> <description>Apple, Bicycles, Boston, Dot and Web Media</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:28:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18269</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:35:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18269</guid> <description>Well, Obama won, now let&#039;s see how he does. To me there was little difference in the political stances of Obama and McCain (they both veered more to the middle than left or right) but in terms of personality, charisma, and what the two would project as a leader there is a huge, huge difference and it&#039;s apparent that the world approves of our choice and that he&#039;s energized many people who never cared about politics before. On pure leadership potential, we clearly made the correct choice.As for Mayor, not sure April, maybe this election cycle...if I run I&#039;m running on a platform of taking power away from the Mayor. I&#039;d appoint (after meeting with each community) mini-mayors for each section of the city and basically delegate to them and allow for more citizen and community power. If Kerry takes a place in Obama&#039;s cabinet and Lynch takes over as senator I might just run for Lynch&#039;s spot though.In either case, I&#039;d pay myself a minimum wage salary and only work 3-4 days out of the week as an example that we can all work less but work better.:-)But, I&#039;ve got about a million things I want to do so it&#039;s not likely that I&#039;ll run. Would be a great experience though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Obama won, now let&#8217;s see how he does. To me there was little difference in the political stances of Obama and McCain (they both veered more to the middle than left or right) but in terms of personality, charisma, and what the two would project as a leader there is a huge, huge difference and it&#8217;s apparent that the world approves of our choice and that he&#8217;s energized many people who never cared about politics before. On pure leadership potential, we clearly made the correct choice.</p><p>As for Mayor, not sure April, maybe this election cycle&#8230;if I run I&#8217;m running on a platform of taking power away from the Mayor. I&#8217;d appoint (after meeting with each community) mini-mayors for each section of the city and basically delegate to them and allow for more citizen and community power. If Kerry takes a place in Obama&#8217;s cabinet and Lynch takes over as senator I might just run for Lynch&#8217;s spot though.</p><p>In either case, I&#8217;d pay myself a minimum wage salary and only work 3-4 days out of the week as an example that we can all work less but work better.<br
/> <img
src='http://cdn.adamp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>But, I&#8217;ve got about a million things I want to do so it&#8217;s not likely that I&#8217;ll run. Would be a great experience though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: April</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18203</link> <dc:creator>April</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:45:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18203</guid> <description>im voting democrat because i want to make damn sure a democrat is picking out supreme court PARTICULARLY because out south dakota (FUCKING AGAON. I am considering burning south dakota to the ground. it was a pain in my ass for the last 6 years).  im not sure i even like the democrats anymore.. but i want them picking my justices.   fucking south dakota.It amy bring attention but its also a massive waste of money in my view. start small build up.also mayor huh? when.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Aprils last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/calling-pa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Calling PA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im voting democrat because i want to make damn sure a democrat is picking out supreme court PARTICULARLY because out south dakota (FUCKING AGAON. I am considering burning south dakota to the ground. it was a pain in my ass for the last 6 years).  im not sure i even like the democrats anymore.. but i want them picking my justices.   fucking south dakota.</p><p>It amy bring attention but its also a massive waste of money in my view. start small build up.</p><p>also mayor huh? when.</p><p><abbr><em>Aprils last blog post..<a
href="http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/calling-pa.html" rel="nofollow">Calling PA</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18197</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18197</guid> <description>But yes April, I agree with you that this third party movement starts local and Nader and the other third party candidates do have local movements going, and starting tomorrow they&#039;re switching their focus back to the local movements. You must admit running for president is a good way to also bring focus on the local movements and expose the whole country to the issues so that they&#039;ll be more willing to vote for a third party on the local level.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adam Pieniazeks last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OTIBR/~3/440868713/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ralph Nader: Uber Citizen, OK President&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yes April, I agree with you that this third party movement starts local and Nader and the other third party candidates do have local movements going, and starting tomorrow they&#8217;re switching their focus back to the local movements. You must admit running for president is a good way to also bring focus on the local movements and expose the whole country to the issues so that they&#8217;ll be more willing to vote for a third party on the local level.</p><p><abbr><em>Adam Pieniazeks last blog post..<a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OTIBR/~3/440868713/" rel="nofollow">Ralph Nader: Uber Citizen, OK President</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18196</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18196</guid> <description>So, you blame Democrats but you&#039;re voting for a Democrat?Blame me too when I run for Mayor of Boston please!;)I truly believe Nader is one of the greatest citizens we&#039;ve ever seen. Key emphasis here is on citizen, he&#039;s enacted more positive legislation than many career politicians.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adam Pieniazeks last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OTIBR/~3/442400588/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bob Barr: An Old-School Republican in Libertarian Clothing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you blame Democrats but you&#8217;re voting for a Democrat?</p><p>Blame me too when I run for Mayor of Boston please!<br
/> <img
src='http://cdn.adamp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I truly believe Nader is one of the greatest citizens we&#8217;ve ever seen. Key emphasis here is on citizen, he&#8217;s enacted more positive legislation than many career politicians.</p><p><abbr><em>Adam Pieniazeks last blog post..<a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OTIBR/~3/442400588/" rel="nofollow">Bob Barr: An Old-School Republican in Libertarian Clothing</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: April</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18195</link> <dc:creator>April</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18195</guid> <description>oh you see i can and i do.understand my blaming nadar does not mean i do not also blame the democrats more.  i blame everyone. (Also greatest citizen? spin me another one)i am an angry person.be a campaign manager. When you start a business you don&#039;t open a location in every town of every state - you start local, build a big base and move forward. it takes patience. who forgot to clue in the 3rd parties?&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Aprils last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/redskins-for-obama.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redskins for Obama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh you see i can and i do.</p><p>understand my blaming nadar does not mean i do not also blame the democrats more.  i blame everyone. (Also greatest citizen? spin me another one)</p><p>i am an angry person.</p><p>be a campaign manager. When you start a business you don&#8217;t open a location in every town of every state &#8211; you start local, build a big base and move forward. it takes patience. who forgot to clue in the 3rd parties?</p><p><abbr><em>Aprils last blog post..<a
href="http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/redskins-for-obama.html" rel="nofollow">Redskins for Obama</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18192</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18192</guid> <description>April, over 200,000 registered Democrats in Florida voted for Bush. Meanwhile Nader got less than 100,000 votes in Florida. If you want to blame anyone for the Bush presidency clearly, you should start with the Democrats (hence if you&#039;re not voting for Nader because he caused Bush, you should not vote for Obama either because his party is even more responsible for Bush).Also, multiple other third parties received more than 600 votes in Florida (the margin of victory for Bush over Gore) so why not blame them? Gore himself blames himself and rightfully so. He ran a shitty campaign and thus lost, Gore is a loser, stop blaming one of the greatest American citizens of our time because one corporate candidate did not beat out another.The poor planning of third parties (which I agree with you on 100% -- actually thinking about applying to be a campaign manager for a certain third party --) is the reason the third parties lose, not the reason the major parties lose.You can&#039;t blame someone for someone else losing. It&#039;s not fair to anyone. Nader lost, Gore lost, Bush stole an election. Those are the simple facts. Blaming Nader is easy but wrong.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April, over 200,000 registered Democrats in Florida voted for Bush. Meanwhile Nader got less than 100,000 votes in Florida. If you want to blame anyone for the Bush presidency clearly, you should start with the Democrats (hence if you&#8217;re not voting for Nader because he caused Bush, you should not vote for Obama either because his party is even more responsible for Bush).</p><p>Also, multiple other third parties received more than 600 votes in Florida (the margin of victory for Bush over Gore) so why not blame them? Gore himself blames himself and rightfully so. He ran a shitty campaign and thus lost, Gore is a loser, stop blaming one of the greatest American citizens of our time because one corporate candidate did not beat out another.</p><p>The poor planning of third parties (which I agree with you on 100% &#8212; actually thinking about applying to be a campaign manager for a certain third party &#8211;) is the reason the third parties lose, not the reason the major parties lose.</p><p>You can&#8217;t blame someone for someone else losing. It&#8217;s not fair to anyone. Nader lost, Gore lost, Bush stole an election. Those are the simple facts. Blaming Nader is easy but wrong.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: April</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18181</link> <dc:creator>April</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:32:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18181</guid> <description>I have to disagree. That fact that he received almost 3% of the  vote puts him more than the Green Bay packers routing in the Giants from the stands.  It would be like Green Bay sending in a players when one of the giants got hurt. 3%, although not according to government, is in the viably in the game in my opinion.A viable 3rd party is necessary but lets not pretend that it does not exist. Gore would not have received the entire 3%.  Some people jsut don&#039;t like him, but the truth is a vote for Nadar, at least in 2000 was a vote for the environment and a vote for Gore was also a vote for the environment.  Nadar, in my opinion, was like a less moderate Gore. In an election that close... 1.5% could have helped.I think third parties need to make MORE of a showing on the state level before taking on the presidential level.  If your mayor and State Senator were Green then an average citizen might vote in a Green President.  But they aren&#039;t, they wont, and they take more liberal votes. Im not anti-3rd party, i think the price being paid is to high because of poor planning.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Aprils last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-cant-get-back-on-track-help.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Can&#039;t Get Back on Track. HELP!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree. That fact that he received almost 3% of the  vote puts him more than the Green Bay packers routing in the Giants from the stands.  It would be like Green Bay sending in a players when one of the giants got hurt. 3%, although not according to government, is in the viably in the game in my opinion.</p><p>A viable 3rd party is necessary but lets not pretend that it does not exist. Gore would not have received the entire 3%.  Some people jsut don&#8217;t like him, but the truth is a vote for Nadar, at least in 2000 was a vote for the environment and a vote for Gore was also a vote for the environment.  Nadar, in my opinion, was like a less moderate Gore. In an election that close&#8230; 1.5% could have helped.</p><p>I think third parties need to make MORE of a showing on the state level before taking on the presidential level.  If your mayor and State Senator were Green then an average citizen might vote in a Green President.  But they aren&#8217;t, they wont, and they take more liberal votes. Im not anti-3rd party, i think the price being paid is to high because of poor planning.</p><p><abbr><em>Aprils last blog post..<a
href="http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-cant-get-back-on-track-help.html" rel="nofollow">I Can&#8217;t Get Back on Track. HELP!</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18170</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18170</guid> <description>April...Al Gore lost the election for Ralph Nader! If all Al Gore voters simply voted for Nader we&#039;d be sitting pretty right now.;)In other words, you can&#039;t blame Bush on Nader. It&#039;s just not a solid argument. The Democrats have had eight years to fight back and impeach Bush but instead they support him. The Democrats and Al Gore are directly responsible and actively supportive of George W. Bush.To blame Nader for Gore&#039;s loss is like blaming the Green Bay Packers for the Pats losing the Super Bowl to the Giants! It passes the buck from the true loser to someone who wasn&#039;t even there!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April&#8230;Al Gore lost the election for Ralph Nader! If all Al Gore voters simply voted for Nader we&#8217;d be sitting pretty right now.</p><p> <img
src='http://adamp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>In other words, you can&#8217;t blame Bush on Nader. It&#8217;s just not a solid argument. The Democrats have had eight years to fight back and impeach Bush but instead they support him. The Democrats and Al Gore are directly responsible and actively supportive of George W. Bush.</p><p>To blame Nader for Gore&#8217;s loss is like blaming the Green Bay Packers for the Pats losing the Super Bowl to the Giants! It passes the buck from the true loser to someone who wasn&#8217;t even there!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: April</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18169</link> <dc:creator>April</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18169</guid> <description>An unpopular opinion, I know but I think George W. Bush was too high a price to pay for Nader to try (and fail) to get the green party recognized. Due to the current predicament that this country is in, McCain is as well.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Aprils last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-cant-get-back-on-track-help.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Can&#039;t Get Back on Track. HELP!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An unpopular opinion, I know but I think George W. Bush was too high a price to pay for Nader to try (and fail) to get the green party recognized. Due to the current predicament that this country is in, McCain is as well.</p><p><abbr><em>Aprils last blog post..<a
href="http://losingthelovechub.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-cant-get-back-on-track-help.html" rel="nofollow">I Can&#8217;t Get Back on Track. HELP!</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Pieniazek</title><link>http://adamp.com/politics/i-endorse-barack-obama-but-im-voting-for-nader-gonzalez/#comment-18155</link> <dc:creator>Adam Pieniazek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:06:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://adamp.com/?p=732#comment-18155</guid> <description>Nader is anything but a sham, he&#039;s compiled a huge record of helping to enact positive legislation and socially progressive non-profit organizations. He&#039;s done more for this country as a private citizen than most career politicians.Many polls have actually shown that many Nader supporters are Republicans who have become disenchanted with McCain and Bush. Also, Nader actually has a pretty good chance of gaining 5% of the vote this time around, polls put him at 3-4% and with a big enough push he could surpass the 5% mark, but that only gives him access to federal funding. Access to the debates requires polling at 15% and is an arbitrary figure set by a private corporation owned by the Republicans and Democrats. If Nader were to poll at 15%, they&#039;d likely up the requirement to 20%.I am not an Obama supporter. We&#039;re far apart on too many issues, my post is a simple statement that if only looking at the two mainstream candidates, then Obama is slightly better because he won&#039;t be catastrophically bad for the country.If you&#039;re truly worried about the state of American politics, and especially our economy, voting third party is the best way to begin fixing our problems. The Democrats and Republicans propose band-aids when casts and possibly surgery is needed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nader is anything but a sham, he&#8217;s compiled a huge record of helping to enact positive legislation and socially progressive non-profit organizations. He&#8217;s done more for this country as a private citizen than most career politicians.</p><p>Many polls have actually shown that many Nader supporters are Republicans who have become disenchanted with McCain and Bush. Also, Nader actually has a pretty good chance of gaining 5% of the vote this time around, polls put him at 3-4% and with a big enough push he could surpass the 5% mark, but that only gives him access to federal funding. Access to the debates requires polling at 15% and is an arbitrary figure set by a private corporation owned by the Republicans and Democrats. If Nader were to poll at 15%, they&#8217;d likely up the requirement to 20%.</p><p>I am not an Obama supporter. We&#8217;re far apart on too many issues, my post is a simple statement that if only looking at the two mainstream candidates, then Obama is slightly better because he won&#8217;t be catastrophically bad for the country.</p><p>If you&#8217;re truly worried about the state of American politics, and especially our economy, voting third party is the best way to begin fixing our problems. The Democrats and Republicans propose band-aids when casts and possibly surgery is needed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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